tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37116884.post2266995825678586746..comments2023-11-01T02:24:23.442+11:00Comments on The Ministry of Incompetence: Evangelicals are Really Closet DocetistsDavid Castorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17367908059008038221noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37116884.post-50473190872769960522008-05-01T18:31:00.000+10:002008-05-01T18:31:00.000+10:00Pre. Tilley was a hyper-Calvinist in those days, a...Pre. Tilley was a hyper-Calvinist in those days, as I remember (late 80s). <BR/><BR/>I reckon Jesus' miracles are as much about his humanity as about his divinity - because they show him to be Son of God in the OT royal sense. It is about his Sonship in the Davidic line. <BR/><BR/>Guess where I learnt this? At an evangelical college!! :-)michael jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15379361601019023165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37116884.post-89762599365139041262008-04-30T19:58:00.000+10:002008-04-30T19:58:00.000+10:00Hey Michael - thanks for your comments.I would pro...Hey Michael - thanks for your comments.<BR/><BR/>I would probably agree with you that I've exaggerated my point somewhat, which is unbecoming when I am trying to point to what I perceive as an imbalanced approach when it comes to focussing on Christ's divinity over Christ's humanity. It would certainly be true that I've heard evangelical ministers focus (or at least refer) to Jesus' humanity outside of Easter and Christmas. Of course, I should point out that one can still preach from a passage in the gospel narratives without focussing on Jesus' humanity - the miracle stories would be an obvious place where this could happen.<BR/><BR/>I should point out that I didn't suggest that evangelicals didn't, or couldn't have a rich experience of faith, but merely that their faith experience would be somewhat more rich if they redressed the imbalance that I've described. I'd reiterate in this respect that I have known many evangelicals whom I have respected and have been edified in my own faith journey. <BR/><BR/>Just wondering, did you first know Robert Tilley pre or post conversion to Catholicism?David Castorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17367908059008038221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37116884.post-19262831113079179942008-04-30T07:45:00.000+10:002008-04-30T07:45:00.000+10:00But also, once again David, you do speak as if eva...But also, once again David, you do speak as if evangelicals don't have a rich experience of faith. How do you know we don't?michael jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15379361601019023165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37116884.post-32057171432295563142008-04-29T23:14:00.000+10:002008-04-29T23:14:00.000+10:00Well, I think there is, you are right, an over-rea...Well, I think there is, you are right, an over-reaction to the rank Arianism of 19th C. liberalism. I think it is very helpful to be reminded of the humanity of Christ in this way.<BR/><BR/>But it isn't there, in my experience, to the degree you suggest. I think you caricature evangelical preaching on this point, actually. I have heard many many many sermons on the gospels, for example, and that to me is a good sign that whatever imbalance may have once been there is being corrected. <BR/><BR/>The key thing is to have BOTH natures of Christ, isn't it?<BR/><BR/>PS I went to uni with Robert Tilley!michael jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15379361601019023165noreply@blogger.com